amsterdam - istanbul

In the Netherlands arts is funded by the state. There are many great advantages and honourably intends in this system that tries to shield artists from poverty and acknowledge the position of art in society, but let me make some critical notes to for those not familiar with the drawbacks of such a system: There are almost no art collectors and the art market is not a factor of power. There are some corporate art collections mostly interested in painting and artists successful abroad/marketwise. These collections have been kept as much as possible out of museums unless there was a reason any museum would like to have a piece. Because museums are also funded by the state there is no need for them to interact with business that much and they are therefore naïve in that sense. There are more art administrators than artists in the Netherlands, most of whom are trained as civil servants, not as artists. there are some private funds that usually call the state funds to see if these have funded the applicant, so they are not really an alternative for the state money. Some good institutions get shut down, or are threatened to be shut down every 4 years when the government changes because not art quality but art policy is the deciding factor who gets funded or who does not. There is a tern called 'funding drip' which sort of sums up the negative effects of this system. Nobody can grow big unless some loopholes in the political system allows it. Because of accounting reasons the state likes to give money to institutions rather than artists these days and the call for other ways of funding the arts (from the populist side) are gave rise to some plan called the art mecenaat (medieval word for art patron). If this plan will be implemented the Netherlands will get something much more obsolete than arts and business. The bureaucracy is huge but the awards in terms of money and relative freedom for artists are big.

In Istanbul the contemporary visual arts are not as developed and relatively young compared with traditions in the performing arts. All money for visual art comes from rich individuals or their banks. The banking sector owns the galleries, has its own art spaces (Platform Garanti) and the owners of some bank set up the Istanbul Modern. The system is not bureaucratic but wholly dependent on status and contacts. The developments are interesting but there is still a big need for more diverse funding and capacity building. Istanbul foundation that organises all mayor cultural events in the city is very active but focuses on main stream events. The university network is also very important. It is easier than in the Netherlands to find volunteers (in the Netherlands most artists/people expect to be paid). Artists have second jobs, often media or advertisement related that seems to make them more aware of the working part of society.

In both examples the mayor problem artists name is the monopoly on funding. How can we design plausible art worlds that are more varied in their economics? Who would you like to get money from more, some big business or from the state? Why?

My answers: In the Netherlands working with organisations paying for our time was liberating since it gave us (me and Elias, my colleague) possibilities to connect with worlds that were normally outside of the confined subsidized art world. We also got state funding to be visible in that system otherwise our critique would not even get noticed. In Istanbul the challenge is to get the government more committed to art so that artists there have more options.

aharon's picture

re: amsterdam - istanbul

It is interesting to read your locality-based-critique of arts funding - not least because it is fairly removed from my own inclinations.
For example, I find religious institutions' funding fascinating because it seems to welcome local funding structures as well as develop, encourage and in many ways, rely upon, global funding within the sect/group.

So far, this view has been expressed on equal-opportunities form. Where they ask about "ethnic background", I tick "other" and write "art". (Some might argue that "ethnic backgrounds" are not religiously based, however some are..)

orgacom's picture

theology of art & religious funding

Hi,

Can you post some details about the way religions are funded? I like to learn more about that. It seems a promissing way to establish some plausible artworlds.

I know it is besides the topic you just brought up, but I just finished reading an article about muslim finance schemes in the september 23/24 magazine of the Financial Times. Muslims are not allowed to make money with money (a.o. to receive or demand interest) or to be in debt. apparently for the last few years this has lead some mayor banks to create new funding structures that allow muslims morgages etc. All in line with sharia laws. There have also been a number of articles about the gulf states investments in contemporary art which seem to be designed out of the need to lure rich tourists, but also made me wonder what this art would have to abide by except attracting tourists.

Teike Asselbergs

aharon's picture

& religious funding

I will start by saying that I do not consider myself very knowlegable about religious funding. What I think I know about this is from anecdotal experience and a few articles.
Generaly, it seems that religious funding comes in:
* Local version. People in a certain place fund their activities.
* Glocal version. Global funds go to localities where they are used.
* Public version. Public funds are used to fund, at least by stated intent, mainly, local activities. (..though, as in the church of england case, public funds go to funding global activities as well..)

Raising funds come in the guise of a charity, and or, a form of devotional proof. (i.e. if you are devoted - give us money to prove it..)
Also, religions use their respective festivities as good time to ask for money - as well as disasters.. (e.g. the kashmir dissater..)

I think that on the whole, the interesting thing about religious funding is that they manage to raise funds for, what is essentialy, the promotion and preservation of stories. Each religion with its own story/ies.. That is like saying that someone has recieved funds from people all over the world to make an arts project..
Offcourse, in the case of religion, people do give money, because they are happy to imagine, that there is a real and present co-relation, between themselves in one part of the world and people in another... This might be very clear in cases of, say, helping people facing a famin, however, as in many cases of religious funding - the assistance is based on a shared story, and even just to help spreading/preserving/developing the story..

One might imagine, or can not really imagine - as the case may be - thatart funding might be made between individual artists and art communities. If artists imagine themselves to be of similarities well worth helping one another financialy, the religious example shows that artists just might.. (..though personaly, I'd hope such activity will be amongst people helping free-thinking and sceptical spirituality activities/endivours..)

As for links:
http://www.opendemocracy.net/arts-multiculturalism/article_2204.jsp - not much about funding per se, but certain hints and a discussion of a social place of religions.

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/experts/2001/parker_faithbased_federal.htm - Public religions funding in the us, rules and rule bending..

http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk/vsmagazine/features/index.asp?id=2423 - About the charity strand in a UK context.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1728616,00.html - Public funds in the us going to religious organisations. I really can not understand how US tax payers can live with that.. It seems like a political burial to advocate for serious public funds for the arts in the US, but they seem to be happy giving money to fund religions like there's no tomorrow..

orgacom's picture

Great I will read your links and come back to that

Ehm. I noticed that somehow we went from Istanbul-amsterdam to something about religion. This happens a lot when I start about Turkey. Maybe in this case it is just incidental, but I think there are other things to say about locale, especially the locale of big cities like Istanbul. Hopefully Trinity will come online some time to make some Urbanist remarks about this from his Johannesburg point of view.

In urbanist terms Amsterdam cannot be remotely compared with Istanbul.

Teike Asselbergs

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